Fact Check: Moderna 'Representative' Does NOT Make 'HORRIFIC' Admission About Vaccine

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  • by: Sarah Thompson

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Fact Check: Moderna 'Representative' Does NOT Make 'HORRIFIC' Admission About Vaccine Misrepresented

Did a Moderna "representative" make a "HORRIFIC admission" about the COVID-19 vaccine in a recorded phone call featured on "The Stew Peters Show"? No, that's not true: The relationship with Moderna of the person whose voice was recorded -- and the extent of that person's knowledge of Moderna -- is unknown. As is the case with many companies, the person on a "customer care" line could be a company employee, or could be a contract worker in a call center or working from home. Whatever the case, his words were intentionally distorted, cut off and misrepresented. The headline's claim of a "horrific admission" does not match the content of the recording.

The claim originated in an episode of "The Stew Peters Show" published on Red Voice Media on June 22, 2021, titled "Recordings of Moderna Representative Making HORRIFIC Admission About Jab" (archived here). The introductory text begins:

The Stew Peters Show

In a shocking recorded phone call between a jab victim and a representative of Moderna, the agent of the pharmaceutical company admitted that EVERYONE that subjects themselves to the shot in the arm is part of the experiment.

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(Source: Redvoicemedia.com Screenshot taken on Wed Jun 23 23:55:09 2021 UTC)

While the episode contains many claims, this fact check is addressing only the particular claims pertaining to the recorded phone call placed by Brittany Galvin, who has been a guest on the show several times, to Moderna's Customer Care line.

At about five minutes 40 seconds into the video, Peters quickly reviews Galvin's case: She claims to have been diagnosed with Guillain-Barre Syndrome by a neurologist. She also says she has become magnetized. Peters says the aim of Galvin's call was to report her experience directly to Moderna. The recording of the phone call begins with the automated scripted greeting of the Moderna Customer Care line. Peters says there was a disconnection, and a representative (identified only as "Gilbert") calls Galvin back.

A piece of this conversation is missing, and the audience never hears Galvin describe the reason for her call or what problems she is experiencing. The call begins with Gilbert requesting the vaccine lot numbers recorded on Galvin's vaccination card.

It is not clear whether Gilbert knew the call was being recorded by the person calling.

At seven minutes 26 seconds into the video Galvin begins asking Gilbert questions. She asks him three questions in a row:
So what happens after this? I mean what if; have you guys seen a, seen a lot of this? Like, what, what's gonna happen?
Gilbert then makes a drawn-out "Yeah" sound at the start of his sentence: His "yeah" does not sound like an affirmative answer to her questions but a signal that he heard her and was going to try to speak. At this, Peters cuts back to himself and breaks it down for his audience:
So, the Moderna rep clearly says that they have seen these reactions! He doesn't seem surprised by any of her symptoms or her diagnosis -- that's shocking! But not as shocking as the admission that he made next.
Galvin then asks if there have been any cases of Guillain-Barre Syndrome reported to Moderna and Pfizer. She mentions her own case plus two more she knows about in just one hospital. Before Gilbert can answer, she doubles up on questions again:
The vaccines are still in clinical trials, right? So doesn't this information help?
These last two questions have different answers, Yes, the clinical trial is ongoing. And, yes, information about adverse reactions is important and helpful -- but this information is not part of the clinical trial. The clinical trials (archived here), which enrolled about 30,000 people under controlled conditions, are ongoing and patients cannot add themselves to the data. Clinicaltrials.gov lists the recruitment status of the trial as: active, not recruiting. Gilbert does not describe the design of the trials. He says:
Uh, yes, exactly. So the information, uh, does help, I mean we are still gathering information, as people are continuing to get the vaccine, so anything that we do receive does help, for anything that happens in the future going forward.
Galvin follows with:
Is everyone that's getting the vaccine in the clinical trial or is it only some of the vaccines are in the clinical trial? I'm very confused on that.
At this point Gilbert takes a step back and explains he has to read a disclaimer from Moderna and the FDA. This disclaimer text can be found on the Clinical Trial Data page on the Moderna website:
  • The Moderna COVID‑19 Vaccine has not been approved or licensed by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA), but has been authorized for emergency use by FDA, under an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA), to prevent Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID‑19) for use in individuals 18 years of age and older. There is no FDA-approved vaccine to prevent COVID‑19.
  • The EUA for the Moderna COVID‑19 Vaccine is in effect for the duration of the COVID‑19 EUA declaration justifying emergency use of the product, unless the declaration is terminated or the authorization is revoked sooner.

Gilbert reads on at nine minutes 40 seconds (Lead Stories was unable to locate this exact text on the Moderna website, although partial matches do exist):

Regarding the clinical trials so OK, um, so there's uh, clinical trials that are ongoing actually. So this is uh, all the clinical trials are still ongoing. The long-term protective efficacy of the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine is currently unknown. Uh, it is therefore not known whether a vaccine recipient who is exposed to the virus causes, the virus that causes COVID-19 will get mildly ill or have no symptoms. Results of the ongoing phase 3 study show that there are no cases of severe COVID-19 infection among participants who received the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine compared with 30 cases among those who received the placebo -- which is no vaccine.

At 10 minutes 33 seconds, Galvin misinterprets this and asks Gilbert to clarify:
So only 30 people got that placebo?
That is not what Gilbert read. Compared with none of the people in the study who were vaccinated, 30 people who got the placebo wound up coming down with COVID-19. The study had about 30,000 participants and the ratio was 1:1, So there were about 15,000 people in the placebo group, 30 of whom came down with COVID-19. At this point Gilbert seems flustered and has trouble answering:
Uh, in the phase 3 yeah, so there's, in three phases they're all ongoing, uh because uhhh, basically the people that got it, the first dose, they're still like looking at the long-term effects of it, so they can't really say the trials is done necessarily.
Galvin revisits her earlier proposal:
So everybody who's getting these vaccines right now is in the clinical trial. It's not like some of us got it and some of us didn't. Like everyone who is getting it is in and participating in the clinical trial.
At 11 minutes 11 seconds, thoroughly flustered Gilbert replies:
Uhhhhh prettty muchhhh, I mean yeeeah, because, yeah.
Peters cuts off the playback of the call and summarizes this exchange: Now Gilbert, the flustered customer service representative, is "the company." Peters claims that Gilbert laughed at Galvin and plays back Gilbert's flustered utterances twice, but Gilbert never laughs or chuckles.

So the company that wants you to believe that these injections are safe.
The company that produces and regurgitates this narrative that they have proven efficacy.
The company that is pushing you towards their plan to profit billions of dollars at the expense of the rest of your life, at the expense of your children's life, has now admitted on the record that everyone that subjects themselves to their jab is part of a trial, part of an experiment!

Not only that but he laughed at the victim!

She specifically told him that she couldn't walk. She doesn't know that she'll ever walk again. She illustrated to him that she is living in hell and he chuckled! This is sick! This is premeditated murder. They know exactly what's happening to people being injected with their poison and they just don't care. Fact check that.

It is a misrepresentation for Peters to say, "The company has now admitted on the record that everyone that subjects themselves to their jab is part of a trial, is part of an experiment," just because the customer service employee was unable to counter Galvin's unusual and rapid-fire line of questioning that took him off the prepared script. He was not able to correct the false statement that Galvin introduced again and again into the phone conversation she was recording -- that every vaccinated person is part of the clinical trial.

Lead Stories reached out to Moderna's media contact by email for comment and will update as appropriate if we receive a reply.

Lead Stories has already addressed post-vaccination magnetization claims on "The Stew Peters Show," which featured Galvin sticking metal objects to her body.


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  Sarah Thompson

Sarah Thompson lives with her family and pets on a small farm in Indiana. She founded a Facebook page and a blog called “Exploiting the Niche” in 2017 to help others learn about manipulative tactics and avoid scams on social media. Since then she has collaborated with journalists in the USA, Canada and Australia and since December 2019 she works as a Social Media Authenticity Analyst at Lead Stories.


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